- Did the children murder Simon?
- Are Piggy and Ralph as guilty as any of the rest? Are they more guilty?
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Wednesday, 8 December 2010
Child Murderers in Paradise (rw5, Lord of the Flies)
"The Shell and the Glasses" begins with Ralph and Piggy discussing the awful conclusion to the party, with communal feasting, dancing and singing, which they enjoyed at Jack's place the previous evening (Golding & Epstein, 1954, p. 155 - 158).
Golding, W., & Epstein, E. L. (1954). Lord of the Flies. New York: Perigee.
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Simon was not supposed to die but the tragic scene had occurred. For the first question, I have two answers in different view between physical and mental. Physically, the children are murderers and their aim is to cause death. On the other hand for mentality, they are not murderers because they want to protect themselves from a strange thing. If they did not kill the stranger, the stranger can kill them. The important thing is they learning to kill and to harm others by violent way without normally human consciousness. They became murder step by step via abandonment, starvation, suffocation and strangulation. Brutality and chaos come and take over the children.
ReplyDeleteThe next morning after Simon’s death, Ralph and Piggy feel awkward and deeply guilty of their behavior. Piggy is unable to confront but Ralph mentions that they are participants in a murder. Piggy has a weak mentality to accept any guilt for what happened. Ralph refuses to accept Piggy’s opinion. He sees everything deteriorating and the rules being useless.
The children murdered Simon by attention ,but they misunderstoond that he was a beast.
ReplyDeletePiggy and Ralph are more guilty than the rest, and Ralph is the most regretful. He insists that they take part in a murder.
I think what they have done is not murder because they misunderstand that Simon is the beast. In that time, For them, they think that they are killing the beast. Simon was killed, so everyone who attack the beast share guilty of killing him.
ReplyDeleteHowever, when they clearly see that body, all of them feel guilty, but only Ralph show that he strongly regret with what he has done.
Although they feel guilty inside their mind, Piggy and most of the boys pretend to forget this sorrowful accident because it is a nature of humans to protect themselves from trouble.
I agree with NK's idea (@December 8, 2010 11:18 AM)and Pim's idea (@December 8, 2010 10:59 PM). The children murdered Simon though they support their doing that they protect themself from the beast.
ReplyDeleteI think they are guilty, but Ralph and Piggy are more guilty than the rest because they did not find an excuse like the rest. That is why I think Ralph and Piggy are more guilty than the rest.
I agree with you all. when I was reading that chapter, I did not clearly understarnd what is happened in that scene. First time I think Simon run to the party fastly and the boy, who was encouraged, think that Simon is a monster then they attack him. So, I accuse they murder Simon.
ReplyDeleteAfter the class has discussed about this topic. I clear that Simon crawl into the middle of dancing circle. THIS IS CLEAR THAT SIMON REQUESTS TO DIE. If he had a presecne of mind, he would not die. He has many choice such as shouting to make his fellow notice him or walking slowly instead of crawling.
For this reason, others do not need to be guilty. All of them do not murder Simon. He just got what hi do. CRAWL INTO THE MIDDLE OF VIOLENT PARTY.