Nowaday, a lot of fashion and clothing style are widely created around the world such as short skirt, short dress, etc., but some of them is not proper to be dressed for going to formal place. For example, a woman with too short skirt attends the class in the university.
According to the article, Brazil minidress row student compensated, a student who dresses with short red dress goes to Bandeirante university in Sao Paulo for attendance class. Her name is Geisy Arruda with 21 years old. When she went into the class with that cloth, she was expelled because of disturbing classes. She was blamed that she did not respect for ethical principle, and lack in academic dignity and morality. After that she felt that she was trampled her dignity severely. Therefore, she sued her university, and got compensation about $23,600 (£14,840) after the civil court judges that the action of the university was intolerance, and discrimination.
I don't know about appearance of the dress exactly. How short was it?, but the news reports that her dress was deemed too short by official. That is her dressing is not suiable to wear for attendance. Moreover, it is a strange news for me because a woman who wore too short dress got compensation from the university though she lacked in respect of university honor. It seems the university does not have any authority. Do you think that the university did the right way which was expelling?
Brazil minidress row student compensated (2010, October 6). BBC News. Retrieved October 6, 2010 from http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-11480968
According to the article, Brazil minidress row student compensated, a student who dresses with short red dress goes to Bandeirante university in Sao Paulo for attendance class. Her name is Geisy Arruda with 21 years old. When she went into the class with that cloth, she was expelled because of disturbing classes. She was blamed that she did not respect for ethical principle, and lack in academic dignity and morality. After that she felt that she was trampled her dignity severely. Therefore, she sued her university, and got compensation about $23,600 (£14,840) after the civil court judges that the action of the university was intolerance, and discrimination.
I don't know about appearance of the dress exactly. How short was it?, but the news reports that her dress was deemed too short by official. That is her dressing is not suiable to wear for attendance. Moreover, it is a strange news for me because a woman who wore too short dress got compensation from the university though she lacked in respect of university honor. It seems the university does not have any authority. Do you think that the university did the right way which was expelling?
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And A's latest post again raises the issue of what is morally right and wrong. A has very effectively brought out the moral issues in his well written summary of the article and response to it.
ReplyDeleteDid Geisy, the student, do anything wrong?
Did the university do something wrong?
Did the court do something wrong?
Where do the right and wrong lie in this case?
Peter@October 7, 2010 7:51 AM
ReplyDelete-Did Geisy, the student, do anything wrong?
Surely she didn't do anything wrong, but her dressing is proper for attendance, really?
-Did the university do something wrong?
Personally, I believe that the university could do that. At least, it is the place which many people attend to acquire more knowledges, so she should respect of place and realise that why she was here.
-Did the court do something wrong?
Exactly, the court should give equality for people, so the court didn't do wrong in the right way. However, it is a good way that the court judges that the university did wrong and paid compensation, really?
-Where do the right and wrong lie in this case?
It is cultural differences. Someone might think that it is right, but wrong for the others. Therefore, it is difficult to define between right and wrong. However, in Thailand, her act is not very proper because we are obsessed that we should dress the suitable cloth for the formal place; for example, thai women shouldn't dress skirt, and go to temple.
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ReplyDeleteUm.., it is so surprising that there is such idiot problem in another country. I like to thing that it is a unique problem of Thailand. I think I understand her because I always dress shorts since I was university student and it is the cause of inaccessibility of university facilities, such as a library or meeting room. In fact, my costume is extremely wrong from university laws; however, I think that my suits do not affect to my brain, my moral, and other’s right, so I can dress up with my causal suits.
ReplyDeleteI think there are not any causes like this news in Thailand because there are uniforms of each university. And, public university’s uniforms are specified in state’s Act.
Yes! Thailand has the laws about the uniforms of universities. Is that funny? Therefore, lecturers have authority to dispel students wearing causal suits from rooms and might cut their behavior grade because lecturers get rights from the Act. In contrast, I think there are not any laws of state about costume (, which I think it is too idiot laws) in Spain. Is that correct David?
Therefore, lecturers do not have authority to dispel student even if they dress shirtless (but they might are arrested by police. (Haha) For the court generally, they judge following laws and if the do that it is right.
Why is it right, if the court judges following laws and Thai lecturers dispel students by citing uniform Act?
I think that because they do activities following the pleasure of the stronger and for me the strongest of this situation is the states and all of Act. reflect the wants of state.
I'm inclined to agree with Poome.
ReplyDeleteA good university worries about its academic standards, about its students intellectual and moral development and its contribution to the pursuit of knowledge; the length of student skirts or shorts are not something a decent university should care about at all except perhaps for very formal occasions, and even then I'm not sure that anything stronger than a frown is either right or reasonable.
I can't think of any good reason why adults studying at a university should even be expected to wear any uniform, except perhaps chemistry students who might reasonably be required to wear a protective uniform for some lab. work.
Is there any good reason why university students should wear a uniform?
Since I was a university student, I dressed up a uniform because I had to follow the university rules but I tried to break it all the time for example I wore a pair of silver shoes and put cartoon or flower tattoo on my uniform. When I did it I had same idea as Poome but I didn’t have a big problems. All of teachers in my faculty didn’t mind and they just said you are what you ware. They didn’t blame in direct way just giving something to think about it.
ReplyDeleteFrom my experience, I had 4 students wearing short skirts when they sat on the chairs their skirts covering some parts of their body. In fact that, I don’t mind and I also really understand them but they made me having bad visions. I solved this problems by opening fashion website which it helped them to have wider vision and choose the right role model. They ‘re my favourite students never missing my class. I think a good university never have more problems about uniform as they paid attention on quality of education and had a good role model.
Finally, I’m a teacher who don’t mind of uniform. I’m directly concerned in quality of work. The last time I said to my student by using her cloth compared with her work. I said, ”Why you dress so well, but your work’s so bad. Please take more time with your homework.” I think it’s a good example when you compared with something that they can see and touch.
For A’s question, Do you think that the university did the right way which was expelling?I said, “no.” The problem is teacher who can not control the class and make excuse for himself or herself.