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| Skillful 3, p. 29 |
On page 29, we read the article "Is Your Memory Online?" And following the advice not only of Jennifer Bixby and Jamie Scanlon (2013), the authors of Skillful Reading and Writing 3, but also of Harvard's brilliant Stephen Pinker, we want to practice reading critically. What do we think about the ideas we have just read? Are they clear? Do we agree with them?
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As usual, Bixby and Scanlon give some specific questions to help us develop our critical thinking skills (p. 30).
- What kinds of information do you think it is good to let the internet "remember" for you? What kinds of information do you need to remember?
- Do you think that you remember the location of information (where to find it) better than the actual information? Why or why not?
For ten minutes, write down your ideas in response to these questions.
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The ideas in the reading sound right to me. They fit my own experience when I think about it. When I was at university, I made an effort to remember lots of details about the philosophers I studied, such as when they were born and died. For example, I still remember that Socrates was executed with poison by the law courts of democratic Athens in 399 BC. And I remember that Alexander the Great died in 321 BC. I used to remember a lot more of this, but most of it I've now forgotten. I think it's useful to know the order of events, that Socrates was the teacher of Plato, who taught Aristotle, who in turn was hired by King Phillip of Macedon to teach his son Alexander, who went on to conquer the world before his death at age 32, which marked the end of classical Greece and the beginning of the Hellenistic age, with the world quickly falling under the power of the Roman Empire. In this series of events, I think it's useful to remember a few markers, but I get by perfectly well not remembering the date that Alexander crossed over from Greece to Asia. I do know how to find that if I need it. I used to look in books, but I now do what "Is YOur Memory Online?" says people do: I Google.
ReplyDeleteI love it. It takes my phone, or whatever is convenient, a second or so to get the information I want. That is way faster than using books!
I;m happy to let the Internet remember details like numbers for me. I remember one credit card number and I remember a couple of main passwords, but most other such things I now trust to the Internet. If it fails, I'm in serious trouble: I don't have access to my own life! But on the whole, I think the Internet's memory is vastly superior to my memory, which not only forgets things, but often changes them. If accuracy matters, the Internet beats human memory.
I thought of Ae's question yesterday as I was writing that long sequence of relative clauses in the first paragraph. That was a natural way to link all of those ideas together.
DeleteI totally agree with you that the internet makes our lives easier. it's memory is very huge and it easy for us to access quickly that the book. As you said, If it fails, there is the big trouble to our life. So the back up data is another way to minimize this problem.
DeleteHowever, I think that when we could remember much information, it will help us to integrate each part of information quicker and more effective than we let all information is remembered by the internet.
What kinds of information do you think it is good to let the internet "remember" for you? What kinds of information do you need to remember?
ReplyDeleteI think it depends on the system that you have; if the system was safe enough, you could let the internet remember all information for you. However, personally, there is on safe systems in the world. Even the safest system, there are some hole to hack. So I will tell that the information that you don't want other people to know about it, don't put it on the internet.
Do you think that you remember the location of information (where to find it) better than the actual information? Why or why not?
Mostly, I remember locations where to find the information than the information itself. but if the information is very critical, I tend to remember both its location and information.
what kind of information do you need to remember? do you mean your works or your projects are that information you don't want to tell others?
DeleteDo you can remember the link of website or the title of website. Unfortunately, I can't remember the whole stuff, so I download them on my store or bookmark websites. I just remember important information and not need to remember the unimportant information.
I think the internet remember unimportant information that is from website I am interested in facts for me, and I try remember important information that is relevant my work such as articles, journals,and books. However, I always save information from article, journal, and book files on a storage. Before I do work, I had read all information.
ReplyDeleteIn additional, I remember the folder location better than actual information because I classified them by name of folder. There are no longer or larger information to remember. Also, they are important information for me.
Do you need the internet to remember things for you? If the stuff that you want the internet to remember is not important then why do you need the internet to remember it?
DeleteI am different from you I hardly remember the location of things. Even on my laptop . Although I am classifying them well at a point of time it's not possible for me to recall the location of the files once I format the laptop and then put them all in drive D. Lately I've done better in classified the new files; however, the old files are scattering and I'm not sure how to classified them anymore. I wish I had classified them from the beginning. When it has been long since I used the files it was buried in the pool of data and I'm not sure how to get them back.
the actual information is a bit different. I spent more time on the actual information than on entitle the file. I think it's easier to remember the actual information.
I believe it is good to let computer remember the detail of information and instead I only need to remember the main or important points of the whole information. Due to that, I don't have to remember the whole detail of information which I might not be able to memorize them all.
ReplyDeleteThe location of information is what I remember better than the actual information. I always remember the location instead remember the actual information itself in order to come back and read it later. I think the reason that I do that is if I needed that information again I won't be remembered the detail of the information at all so it's better to remember the location and find the information you needed later. For instance, last night, I was thinking about Where is the Guoguan Yuexiao cube came from instead of "just google it" I go straight to the location of the website about rubik's cube that I remembered and searched for the information I needed there.
I'm also better to remember location rather than actual information the same as you; however, I don't like this kind of memory.
DeleteIn the past, before I begin to use computer. I could remember many things easier than nowadays.
Sometime it make me frustrated because my brain can't remember some importance information because in the bottom of my brain remind that it's easy to find those information and I can find it easily on my computer.
In my opinion, it is good way to use the internet remember my vacation experience. Nevertheless, I must remember academic subject in my brain, especially, my research.
ReplyDeleteSometime, I think remember the location of location is better than the actual information because it easily to find something on the internet such as hotels information, universities information and new academic journals. However, sometime we should remember actual information. If you don't have the internet, remember actual information can help you.
From the last two sentences of the second paragraph , do you mean that sometimes we should remember an actual information if you don't have the internet to remember for you? Am I right?
DeleteWe should remember the name of people or location which is importance; however, some information which is very details such as calendar or money collection are good to let the internet remember.
ReplyDeleteI think that remember the location of information is better than actual information because I'm easily forget many things. It will be easier for me to remember the location than every details information.
Although I like to remember the location of information, some actual information such as name or contact of people is necessary to remember by your brain.
I agree about the calendar. If I don't immediately add things to my Google calendar, I'm in grave danger of forgetting them. Again, I think it's fine relying on the Internet for this. My calendar sends me reminders of birhtdays. It reminds me to renew my Thai immigration stuff. It reminds me of financial transactions, and so on.
DeleteFor my contacts, I just need to remember the name, and perhaps some other identifying details. and why that person is importatnt to me. I don't try to remember phone numbers any more, although twenty years ago, I did. As I think now, the only phone number I actually remember is my own! I don't even have my closest friend's phone number in my memory. In fact, my phone does the calling for me - I just need to click an icon, or tell it to call, and it does. If I lose my phone, it's not a problem - the information isn't on the phone, it's all stored safe and ready for me online on Google's servers.
Normally I don't check email regularly if anything I want the internet to remember for me it'd be my own story. For example, I normally posted on facebook the story that Irarely do or things I rarely ate. I think it's ok for me to let the internet remember all these. The information that I need to remember is not something that the internet can help me. It might be something essential such as eating supplements daily or the deadlines. These are not really handy for me to use the internet to do so nbecause sometimes I forgot my mobile phone.
ReplyDeleteNo I don't think so. For me it's the other way around. I can remember the actual information better than the location. The actual information tends to be something that I need to build them up or have a certain experience with it before I got the information. the location however, spend a short time to get it. thus I normally forgot
I agree with you. In my view, I usually post on facebook about new experiences too. I sometime surf the internet for travelling and leisure, especially, Pantip Blueplanet and Tripadvisor.
DeleteIt sounds great for you, if you can remember the actual information, you can discuss a lot information with other people that is a good opportunity to make friends.
Interesting. I guess most of Thais browse around Pantip, a famous Thai blogging community. My sister is also one of them. However I rarely follow the blog there. First I don't really thinkn that the information there is accurate. Besides I prefer to practice other languages by reading works in foreign languages rather then in my own mother tongue.
DeleteI mean it's better than the location but it might not be that good. There are times that I feel dizzy and my brain just doesn't work as I wish it to be as well.