Tuesday 16 August 2011

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This morning I took note of some typical classroom behaviour.
Six people were using an eraser, and one person was using liquid paper.

Do you think this is a good idea? Why or why not?

These questions about erasing also seems to me to connect with one of the important points in the analysis of the paragraph of definition that you are doing this evening (Hartmann & Blass, 2007, p. 40 - 41), and the paragraph due tomorrow evening. What do you think?

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References
Hatmann, P. & Blass, L. (2007). Quest 3 Reading and Writing (2nd. ed.). New York: McGraw Hill.

16 comments:

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  2. I'm not sure I got your point or not. However, it make me think about the definition of "erase"?

    I think in the past the meaning of erase was "to remove a mistake writing out" but nowsday we have an innovation which makes the definition of erase broader to be "to make an incorrect writing invisible". By the new definition, paint white fluid to cover an incorrect becomes make sense.

    Language is a part of culture which is a part of human life. As long as people still use it, changing always happens.

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  3. Rian,
    Thanks for the comment. I don't think it matters if you got the connection that I saw or not. Although I'm prepared to support it tomorrow, I don't think it's very obvious.

    I mainly wanted people to think about whether they should be erasing or not. I think it's generally a mistake to erase, but I realise that a lot of people like to do it, as my reported research on the numbers this morning indicate. Perhaps it would be useful to consider the reasons for erasing and how good those reasons are.

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  4. I've replied so quickly to Rian because I've just finished writing my new answer to tomorrow's exam question on Lord of the Flies, so I happened to notice the new comment here.

    I did make a few erasures in that answer. But that's not using an eraser.

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  5. In Thailand, we have an idiom "mistake is teacher" to encourage people do not worry too much about doing something wrong but try to learn something from that mistake and do it better next time.

    By the way, in writing, as long as editing is a part of writing process, we do need "erasing".

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  6. In my opinion, I don't think that using eraser would not be good. It is ok that when you use eraser to eraser your mistake , but it seems that that person doesn't have the confident to do something.

    However, I think that many people prefer to use pencil and eraser just because they can save time. They can rewrite immediately and don't have to wait until the paper liquid will dry.

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  7. Many people use eraser because it make your note clean ,and it is easier to use than liquid paper. Moreover, using eraser is spend a short time, but in my opinion, many time, I prefer to delete a mistake by a red pen because when I review it again, I can know what is my mistake and learn from mistake like P'Rian said "mistake is teacher".

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  8. As my experience, if I use a pencil for writing, of course I use an eraser for erase some mistakes or something that I don't want it on my paper anymore. Meanwhile, when I use a pen, I often use liquid paper for erasing because it's more convenient. However, I sometimes strikethrough on mistake to save time even it makes my paper untidy.

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  9. I agree with Fai.
    It's better to keep a record of mistakes. And sometimes I decide that a mistake wasn't a mistake after all. If it's not deleted, it's still there to remind me and be useful.

    I think messiness is a good thing in notes and preparation.

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  10. I'm agree with Fai and Peter.
    The wrong answer should be kept to remind that what the first answer that come to mind is.
    Also, why it is wrong.

    anyways I agree with P Rian that "Mistake is a teacher"

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  11. I'm also with Peter, Fai, and P'Golf.
    I think it is a good idea to use pen without using liquid paper especially in class. For me, in studying, I always keep my mistake in highlight. So, I can look back later to avoiding doing that again.

    However, when it comes to something official, such as in business world, it would not be a good idea to publish your paper with liquid paper on it, I think. Like Oun said "it seems that that person doesn't have the confident to do something", and I think it shows some kind of unprofessionalism.

    Anyway, honestly, I sometimes use eraser or liquid paper in class (I might be one of six students that Peter noticed) when the paper runs out space.

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  12. A grammartical question came in my mind when I was blogging and mentioning this idiom. Do you think there are different meaning when we put an article "a" and when we do not? To make you clearer, are "mistake is teacher" and "mistake is a teacher" the same meaning?

    I think the meaning are different.

    What do you think?

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  13. Rian,
    Nice question.
    I think that the following are completely different:
    1. What is topic sentence?
    2. What is a topic sentence?
    3. What is the topic sentence?

    Two of them mean completely different things, and one cannot be understood because of the grammar error. Articles, which unfortunately are a bit complex, matter a lot.

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  14. According to new question from Peter,
    I think the first sentence grammar is wrong.
    The second sentence is asking for non-specific of a topic sentence which can be whatever topic sentence. The last one is the specific question which ask for the specific answer.
    What do you guys think???

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  15. I agree with P'Golf!!!

    And in case that P'Rian ask about "mistake is teacher" and "mistake is a teacher". I want to suggest that if we use "mistake are teachers" it will be better, or not because I think one mistake may teach you more than one thing.

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  16. Golf has the right ideas (August 17, 2011 6:30 PM).

    Sentence 1. cannot be understood. The grammar mistake is serious because it could mean either 2. or 3., and they are totally different.

    2. is asking for a definition. It is not asking about any particular paragraph or any specific topic sentence.

    3. is asking you to point out the topic sentence in a specific paragraph that is being looked at. It is not asking for definition.

    I like the way this discussion has evolved. It has covered several issues that I think are important.

    Thanks for the contributions so far.

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